In the second on-camera conversation between Zen and Women of TmrO, we reconnect after nearly a year, opening a portal of truth, vulnerability, and deep spiritual insight. The episode, titled “Your Body Will Reveal What Your Heart Needs,” offers more than just conversation  it delivers medicine for the soul.

Throughout this raw, deeply personal dialogue, Zen (a spiritual healer) and I explore what it means to live in alignment with your inner truth — even when that truth demands release, discomfort, and radical change.

1. What the Heart Holds, the Body Will Reveal

A foundational theme of this episode is the intimate link between emotional suppression and physical health. Zen shares that ailments such as heart disease and lung conditions are not just genetic — they are inherited emotional imprints passed down through generations of women holding onto unspoken grief.

“Heart disease, lung disease… this is not ‘this runs in my family’ — what runs in your family is a lineage of women who hold on to grief, bitterness, and resentment and never get an opportunity to express it.”

When we don’t process betrayal, anger, sadness, or disappointment, it doesn’t disappear. It embeds itself in our tissues, our cravings, and our patterns. Zen explains that cravings like smoking or emotional eating are often coping mechanisms — attempts to silence deeper discomfort. And when the emotional charge is truly released, the physical craving begins to dissolve.

2. Magnetism Through Embodiment: From Faking It to Becoming It

Zen emphasizes that real confidence lives in the body. Before embodiment, it often shows up as a performance — something we wear until the belief actually lands.

“Before the confidence really dropped into the body, it was wearing the costume of it.”

Once embodied, though, that confidence becomes a magnet.

“I look at it as if I’m a planet… I’m literally pulling, attracting, and magnetizing everything that resonates with me into orbit.”

There’s no need to prove yourself when you’re walking in alignment. The external world responds to your truth.

3. The Hair as a Portal: Letting Go to Liberate

One of the most symbolic moments in our conversation was Zen’s story of cutting her nearly nine-year-old locs — a spiritual and energetic shedding. Her hair had become an extension of her identity, her brand, and her past. But eventually, it felt heavy.

“The hair was an accessory… tied to past versions, to a timeline, to expectations of who I thought I was supposed to be.”

Her body began to shed her hair naturally — a powerful wake-up call.

“If you're not going to get rid of them, we’re going to get rid of them.”

Zen eventually cut her hair in Bali and released it into the water in a ritual of grief and rebirth. It made her feel both naked and free.

I also shared my own parallel story — my decision to cut my locs came from intuition, and the result was freeing. I felt lighter and proud of myself for listening to that inner voice.

4. Letting Go on Your Own Terms

Transformation doesn’t have to come through suffering — but many of us wait until it does. Zen reflected on how often people wait for chaos before they move.

“Many people are not willing to allow themselves to be transformed — especially on their own terms. Many people wait for life or the universe to do it for them.”

Whether it's a relationship, a job, or a part of your identity — having the courage to release something before it becomes unbearable is an act of self-respect.

5. Mothering Through Modeling: Prioritizing the Self

Zen speaks about motherhood and boundaries with unapologetic clarity.

“This work is not supposed to be self-sacrificial. A happy mother is one of the greatest gifts you can give your children.”

Children don’t just hear what we say — they absorb what we model. When mothers consistently put themselves last, children learn to do the same.

“One of the best things I’ve done for myself — and for my daughter — is to not live up to their expectations.”

6. We’re Not Meant To Do It Alone: The Return of the Village

Zen offered a passionate truth that resonated deeply with me — the way society has erased the village.

“It is very unnatural and very cruel for a woman to have to raise a child alone.”

Our nervous systems were built for community. Yet capitalism and hyper-independence have made it seem like doing everything alone is strength. But the loss of the village is deeply felt — especially by women and mothers.

“We have been driven so far away from the village mentality that truly nurtures and nourishes us.”

7. The Healer’s Journey: Energetic Boundaries & the Need to Play

As a healer, Zen spoke vulnerably about burnout — and the need for energetic boundaries.

“My care is play. And I was not allowing myself enough time to just play.”

She shares spiritual protection practices like visualizing an energetic box, spiritual baths, and asking the hard question: Is this person actually ready to heal?

“I care so much… but I can’t attach to people who say they want the healing and don’t.”

8. The Ancestors in Our DNA: Resistance, Grief & Emotional Permission

One of the most important insights Zen shares is that resistance to rest and emotion isn’t always ours — it’s inherited.

“Rest at some point was deadly. Being emotional was deadly. These fears are in our DNA.”

Many of us avoid rest or emotional expression because somewhere in our lineage, those things weren’t safe. Zen urges us to allow emotions like grief, envy, and longing — and to view them not as weaknesses but as sacred messages.

“The grief is the healing.”

Final Reflection

This conversation with Zen on Women of TmrO is more than a dialogue — it’s a sacred offering. It’s a reminder that our bodies are always speaking. Whether through tension, craving, exhaustion, or shedding — the body is asking us to listen.

Whether it's through a breakup, a new chapter, or a spontaneous haircut — every release is an invitation to come home to yourself.

The question is: are you willing to listen?

Watch the full conversation on the Women of TmrO YouTube channel and follow @womenoftmro on Instagram to stay connected to this powerful community of truth-tellers, healers, and creatives.